Leaving TBDX (for real).

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

Supersentai — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:23:19 -0400

Now I'm leaving...

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

hillsy — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:25:43 -0400

Isn't it better than being covered in your own impotent rage spew?

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

VF5SS — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 07:30:58 -0400

MattAlt Wrote:
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> I'd read that, but "You have been blocked from
> following this account at the request of the
> user." Thanks man!

I fixeded it

i think i was mad because that Surat was spewing his impotent rage all over me like the asshole he is

so there was collateral twitter damage

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

thomas — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 05:52:00 -0400

MattAlt Wrote:
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> Handy checklist for TBDXers! Check all that
> apply.
>
>
> [ ] This place is dead.
>
> [ ] We never talk about __________ anymore.
>
> [ ] We talk about ___________ too much.
>
> [ ] I'm leaving and never coming back.
>
> [ ] I'm leaving and never coming back for a few
> weeks.

Some more:

[ ] Subtle sarcasm may not convey very well in a text-only medium.

[ ] Rage-quit. I'll be back tomorrow.

[ ] We have this thread about ___________ every few years. It always comes down to the same thing.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

MattAlt — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:11:25 -0400

I'd read that, but "You have been blocked from following this account at the request of the user." Thanks man!

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

VF5SS — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 08:57:43 -0400

[twitter.com]

and you'll never top this gold

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

MattAlt — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:06:02 -0400

Matt's twitter feed is so dead these days.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

VF5SS — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:00:00 -0400

and follow matt on twitter

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

MattAlt — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:50:45 -0400

Handy checklist for TBDXers! Check all that apply.

[ ] This place is dead.

[ ] We never talk about __________ anymore.

[ ] We talk about ___________ too much.

[ ] I'm leaving and never coming back.

[ ] I'm leaving and never coming back for a few weeks.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

asterphage — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:04:07 -0400

I'm withholding my affection until Thomas delivers us his next stunning expose on an underappreciated topic. For instance, I've heard that sometimes advertising is dishonest. I'd like to learn more about that.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

Gcrush — Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:12:02 -0400

Would you two just kiss and get it over with so I can finally leave TBDX (for real)?

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

thomas — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 05:14:08 -0400

Glad to be of service, Paul. Ain't it amazing what kind of exciting intellectual conclusions you can reach by discussing trivialities on the internet? Truly mindblowing!

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

asterphage — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:08:44 -0400

thomas Wrote:
>
> A lot of companies have horrible names. Usually
> they're named after > business> followed by > sound big>.

Thanks dude, I never knew that. I guess you learn stuff every day on TBDX!

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

thomas — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 06:14:40 -0400

asterphage Wrote:
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> And I noticed that several of the companies whose
> stocks were affected are named "Molycorp",
> "Corelogic", "Kronos Worldwide" and "Trinity
> Industries".
>
> Between this kind of thing - both the substance of
> the story and the odd little details like those
> sinister, generic company names - and, y'know,
> advances in information technology, medical tech,
> etc - we're closer and closer to a cyberpunk
> techno-hellscape every day!

A lot of companies have horrible names. Usually they're named after followed by .
Even Microsoft is horribly generic (it's short for "Microcomputer Software").

And it's amazing how many companies are named after the crazy homicidal anti-human AI from Terminator: [www.google.com]. The same goes for Cyberdyne Systems. You have to wonder who thought that doing that was a good idea, especially when the day one of their technological products goes rogue comes.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

Gcrush — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:20:05 -0400

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

asterphage — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:06:45 -0400

So I was reading this article today about a rogue automated stock trading algorithm which caused chaos in the markets yesterday:
[www.nytimes.com]

And I noticed that several of the companies whose stocks were affected are named "Molycorp", "Corelogic", "Kronos Worldwide" and "Trinity Industries".

Between this kind of thing - both the substance of the story and the odd little details like those sinister, generic company names - and, y'know, advances in information technology, medical tech, etc - we're closer and closer to a cyberpunk techno-hellscape every day!

but then another company affected was "Wizzard Software", which is straight outta 1996 or something.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

VF5SS — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:28:46 -0400

look i'm building your Chiron chip

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

Gcrush — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:07:50 -0400

asterphage Wrote:
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> damn right, VF. wish I had one of those when I was
> infiltrating the Ono-Sendai datasphere five
> megacycles ago.

VF5SS Wrote:
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> you would've made it in three megacycles if you
> put in your cybercycle disk

Haw! You guys are fucking killing me. Just reverse the polarity already!

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

VF5SS — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 15:22:10 -0400

you would've made it in three megacycles if you put in your cybercycle disk

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

asterphage — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:24:53 -0400

damn right, VF. wish I had one of those when I was infiltrating the Ono-Sendai datasphere five megacycles ago.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

VF5SS — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:55:45 -0400

[twitpic.com]

and we can all have cyber broadswords like the hippie scientist in Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

Gcrush — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:09:06 -0400

thomas Wrote:
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> Okay. My point was that a lot of online
> communities that are not specifically marketed as
> "social media" or "web 2.0" or "user
> participation" are exactly that, because they
> offer possibilities for people to connect, share,
> exchange, friend, etc. They could a decade ago,
> they could 2 decades ago. Social Media avant la
> lettre, so to say. More new users don't change
> that the basic functionality was there long before
> Facebook.

Prometheum5 Wrote:
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> Social media wins because it has the audience...
> people always go where the most
> people/opportunities/money is.

Thomas, I understand what you're saying. But Ben's right. One of the most important differences between Facebook and the generations of technology platforms that preceded it is the exponentially higher density of connections it facilitates.

Add to that the proliferation of mobile interfaces, the democratization of front ends, integration with other platforms, speed of interaction, and novel expectations of digital native users... It's hardly a surprise that people "prefer" it or come across as oblivious to the history and alternatives of TEH CYBER.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

Prometheum5 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:22:44 -0400

Social media wins because it has the audience... people always go where the most people/opportunities/money is. It was fantastic to meet people at the Summit that don't post on either TBDX or CDX.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

fel9 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:56:27 -0400

Yeah it is almost like no one has ever hit the pipe around here....

Sanjeev Wrote:
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> thomas Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...the fervidness of a crack
> > addict protecting his stash.
>
> Crack addicts don't have stashes. If they have
> rock, they smoke it.
>
> Just saying.
>
> Other than that, I've lost track of what this
> thread is about.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

Sanjeev — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:16:12 -0400

thomas Wrote:
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> ...the fervidness of a crack
> addict protecting his stash.

Crack addicts don't have stashes. If they have rock, they smoke it.

Just saying.

Other than that, I've lost track of what this thread is about.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

hillsy — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:58:46 -0400

I was going to come this year, but Andrew scares me, on fb.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

VF5SS — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:13:15 -0400

how about all the extra people Facebook brought to the Chogokin Summit who all had a good time and got to connect with people with similar interests

no thanks to you mr dutch man

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

asterphage — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:09:53 -0400

thomas Wrote:
>
> However, when you point out this little fact to
> many (current) new internet users, they look at
> you funny and rehash the whole "web 2.0, Facebook,
> Twitter, Youtube"-mantra. Suggest they can do
> things otherwise, that there is an internet at
> large with a lot more interesting places, and they
> stick to their guns with the fervidness of a crack
> addict protecting his stash.

No idea what this means or who these people you're referring to are. Not sure what point you're arguing against here. Also, I haven't heard anyone use the term "web 2.0" sincerely in a few years.

Actually, I think I did hear "web 2.0" once in the past year, but it was referring to trends in visual design elements, not the sense you're using it.

skipping the middle part of this post because you get into a whole separate discussion about the economic viability of Facebook, and who really cares? I don't own shares, so it's irrelevant to me.

> So, eh, what is better about Facebook than this
> place or CollectionDX?

A population of users who post frequently about interesting things. For example, wanna see Matt Alt's scuba diving photos? Follow him on Twitter! You can't get that on TBDX.

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

thomas — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:22:14 -0400

asterphage Wrote:
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> thomas Wrote:
> >
> > *sigh*
> >
> > *facepalm*
>
> Pretty sure "organized around a userbase that has
> specialized interests" is a much, much bigger
> factor in the potential audience for a site than
> "marketed as social media", dude! People aren't
> robots that respond to buzzwords like "social"!
> They're sensitive to features, like functionality
> and perceived qualitative characteristics (like
> what a site is "about", even a blank-slate
> networking site).

Okay. My point was that a lot of online communities that are not specifically marketed as "social media" or "web 2.0" or "user participation" are exactly that, because they offer possibilities for people to connect, share, exchange, friend, etc. They could a decade ago, they could 2 decades ago. Social Media avant la lettre, so to say. More new users don't change that the basic functionality was there long before Facebook.

However, when you point out this little fact to many (current) new internet users, they look at you funny and rehash the whole "web 2.0, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube"-mantra. Suggest they can do things otherwise, that there is an internet at large with a lot more interesting places, and they stick to their guns with the fervidness of a crack addict protecting his stash.

We've seen this before, and like then ([en.wikipedia.org]), the bubble will burst yet again. Some people think that the rather massively overinflated Facebook share value mess is a precursor to this.

Besides, people forget that Facebook et al are commercial companies. They have to make money somehow. They do this by cashing in on their users, by seeing whatever their users contribute to their own site as features they can market. Facebook will increase its user-targeted ads, all of which are specifically tailored to match the user's tastes. However, unlike Google they have complete control over the image crafted by an user, because there are much less ways to escape them. To use Facebook's services, you have to be logged in with them. They track you everywhere you go, unless you log out and remove all their cookies.
Because all content posted on Facebook is not only owned by the user but also by Facebook they can use users and their contributions in targetted ads. There have already been a couple of unpleasant incidents regarding this, for example ads stating people liked and shown to their work colleagues. Ignoring the stupidity of the users involved in such incidents, and the hilarity of them being exposed as perverts, it is a pretty bad case of privacy invasion from a certain point of view.

>
> But no, no, feel free to go on believing that the
> term "social media" and the associated marketing
> cruft makes a difference in what sites are
> popular. I'm sure there's a lot to be learned
> there.

I'm sure that being "sensitive to features" explains why most of TV currently consists of crude shite cashing in on scandal, sex, pseudo-reality shows, braindead entertainment, and passing fads.

So, eh, what is better about Facebook than this place or CollectionDX? If the forum here would be updated to a more modern forum software that allowed users to create groups etc., would you spend more time here?

Re: Leaving TBDX (for real).

asterphage — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:15:17 -0400

thomas Wrote:
>
> *sigh*
>
> *facepalm*

Pretty sure "organized around a userbase that has specialized interests" is a much, much bigger factor in the potential audience for a site than "marketed as social media", dude! People aren't robots that respond to buzzwords like "social"! They're sensitive to features, like functionality and perceived qualitative characteristics (like what a site is "about", even a blank-slate networking site).

But no, no, feel free to go on believing that the term "social media" and the associated marketing cruft makes a difference in what sites are popular. I'm sure there's a lot to be learned there.