CM's Corp Patlabor out now. will get mine over weekend. http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,161677#msg-161677 Fri, 24 May 2013 18:23:01 -0400 Phorum 5.2.18 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248580#msg-248580 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248580#msg-248580
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thomas
Comparing the WHAM to the 1/60 kit, the WHAM has really weird proportions: either the body is too small, or the limbs and head are too big.

Maybe I should just try to track down some of those 1/35 fixed-pose vintage kits...

Well... I wouldn't call the Bandai 1/60 kits the most accurately sculpted versions of any labor, but looking back, I now appreciate the Phantom a lot more! I'm planning a short trip to Hong Kong end of January and if I can't find the Helldiver, maybe I'll try for a spare sofubi like the Hercules or Tyrant to remake into a fully poseable figure.]]> drifand Original Invincible BBS Tue, 01 Jan 2013 20:33:28 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248578#msg-248578 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248578#msg-248578
Maybe I should just try to track down some of those 1/35 fixed-pose vintage kits...]]> thomas Original Invincible BBS Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:38:03 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248534#msg-248534 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248534#msg-248534
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From the available reviews online, my impression is that it is a very nice finished model but lacking in poseability and accessories. For example, the trademark 'left-arm grasping cannon handle' pose is impossible to achieve. And the pre-production photos showed the serrated combat knife (used to great effect against the remotely piloted Brockens) which was omitted in the actual toy... damn shame cheapo.

But mostly, I was just concerned about its relative size to the CM's Ingram et al. Nobody (in the English speaking Internet) seemed to have any side-by-side pix, but I managed to composite one from an owner who shot the Helldiver next to a Griffon, and a Griffon next to an Ingram:

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So, while the Helldiver is too big to be shown next to the AV-98 – I believe they were almost the same height 'IRL' – it looks ok next to beefier labors like the Griffon or Brocken.

Huh, I don't think it looks bad at all. Given the whole paratrooper aesthetic, with the helmet and deceleration thruster pack and all, the difference in size and bulk between it and the Ingram gets absorbed in my eyes by the stylistic difference.

Too bad about the questionable posability and lack of a knife, though.]]> asterphage Original Invincible BBS Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:02:37 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248520#msg-248520 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248520#msg-248520
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It seems, he detached the back cover and cut a hole through the back of the holster compartment to better accommodate the length of the pistol.]]> drifand Original Invincible BBS Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:45:08 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248518#msg-248518 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248518#msg-248518
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Seems it CAN grasp the gun handle but only if its pointed down.]]> drifand Original Invincible BBS Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:21:01 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248517#msg-248517 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248517#msg-248517 shame cheapo.

But mostly, I was just concerned about its relative size to the CM's Ingram et al. Nobody (in the English speaking Internet) seemed to have any side-by-side pix, but I managed to composite one from an owner who shot the Helldiver next to a Griffon, and a Griffon next to an Ingram:



So, while the Helldiver is too big to be shown next to the AV-98 – I believe they were almost the same height 'IRL' – it looks ok next to beefier labors like the Griffon or Brocken.

The W.H.A.M. is probably as good as it gets for fans of the design... alternatives are the scalpers' darling Revoltech edition, or the ol' 1/60 kit. Some Brave Soul™ might try to hack the toy to make it more poseable but I doubt it'll happen.
]]> drifand Original Invincible BBS Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:54:37 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248514#msg-248514 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248514#msg-248514 Prometheum5 Original Invincible BBS Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:23:34 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248505#msg-248505 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248505#msg-248505
The AV-0 Peacemaker and Brocken were NOT made to the same standard. The AV-0 still had some plastic parts – chest with opening holster, shoulders with clear red patrol lights, forearms with opening baton compartment on the left side, detachable shield held by 2 'internal bolts' corresponding to the molded detail. Hard PVC went to the legs, feet, head, hands, upper arms.

The AV-0 joints are the same troublesome clickity-slotted components as used on the all-PVC Brocken, and just slightly less annoying because they did not break inside the shrouds (so far). However, they DO come loose from their sockets during play and you'd be sweating buckets trying to re-insert them purely by feel.

I remember being distinctly disappointed by the matte PVC finish of the Brockens right out of the box. I was hoping for the shiny finish that came with the AV-0s... that would have mitigated the joint troubles somewhat if I could at least have some labor-showroom worthy eye candy on my shelves. As it is, I'm still amazed that my blue Brocken (decked out as a good guys' GSG-9 labor) is still in one piece.

To end off, here's 2 more shots after I fiddled some more with the display:

The unlikely Trasher...


A different hatch...


Overall, I'm really pleased with what CM's managed to produce, blemishes and all. I've seen customs by a Japanese fan who made his own AV-0 Unit 3 as well as a beige-theme 'production' Mark-II that was seen in the last couple of OVA2 episodes (taken down by AV-0s). Right now I'm gearing up to obtain the W.H.A.M.! Helldiver, scale be damned. I think it'll look great next to my surviving Brocken. :-)
]]> drifand Original Invincible BBS Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:29:52 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248504#msg-248504 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248504#msg-248504 Rowr!

Nah, for real...when Patlabor first came out in the late 80's, I kinda saw it as a sort of refinement of the "early-modern" mecha design aesthetic (y'know--designs like in Zeta Gundam, Layzner, and others). At the time, those designs blew my mind...and I really loved them. These were like the Lamborghini Countach of robots to me!

But along the way, my own aesthetics evolved and became...postmodern?? Well, whatever. Now, I appreciate doofy tanks-with-legs like Dougram or original MS Gundam more (when it comes to mecha/"real" robots). So, uh, going back to the car analogy...I now kinda prefer a '69 Mustang to that 80's Countach..?]]> Sanjeev Original Invincible BBS Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:57:57 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248502#msg-248502 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248502#msg-248502
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I guess I'm just not all that hot for the mecha's design, itself.

You are a monster.]]> Prometheum5 Original Invincible BBS Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:46:26 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248494#msg-248494 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248494#msg-248494
Now if they did a Dougram in that style/quality...oh heavens... ;)]]> Sanjeev Original Invincible BBS Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:54:10 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248493#msg-248493 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248493#msg-248493
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No, the Brave Gokin Ingrams are completely different and some of the most perfect toys ever made.

Seconded. If I could go back to clearance times, I'd probably buy like three more.]]> asterphage Original Invincible BBS Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:31:17 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248491#msg-248491 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248491#msg-248491
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Well, I got the Ingram not all that long ago from one of HLJ's blowout sales. It seems okay so far, but should I be worrying about those joints under the cloth shrouds???

No, the Brave Gokin Ingrams are completely different and some of the most perfect toys ever made. Except for the Zero, Economy, and MkII, which are diecast-free imitations of the Brave Gokins. Their major crime was being overpriced, but are otherwise decent mecha action figures.]]> Prometheum5 Original Invincible BBS Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:06:34 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248489#msg-248489 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248489#msg-248489 Sanjeev Original Invincible BBS Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:31 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248487#msg-248487 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248487#msg-248487 JoshB Original Invincible BBS Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:59:55 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248459#msg-248459 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248459#msg-248459 Sanjeev Original Invincible BBS Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:45:58 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248458#msg-248458 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,248458#msg-248458

Taking out the trashed...

So, my red OVA Brocken is basically a paraplegic with shattered joints INSIDE the cloth shrouds. When you got lemons, make lemonade. :-)
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Let's fall apart:


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...and so it didn't take long before I discovered Pickle-Kun's real function: a racing horse (3-legged, so eeeeeeVIL) for the Tyrant! Scary.


]]> thomas Original Invincible BBS Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:21:28 -0400 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,238854#msg-238854 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,238854#msg-238854


Da Pickles are in da house!

Being freed from the plastic trays:


They have some color differences, and only one joint:



]]> thomas Original Invincible BBS Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:17:35 -0400 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,237958#msg-237958 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,237958#msg-237958
HLJ has FINALLY discounted the Mk.II and Economy Labors, to a very decent 3,920 yen each.

We only had to wait 2.5 years for this day.]]> thomas Original Invincible BBS Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:58:22 -0400 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,229139#msg-229139 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,229139#msg-229139 Prometheum5 Original Invincible BBS Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:29:39 -0400 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,229138#msg-229138 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,229138#msg-229138
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CM's Wish list

Python
Type Zero
Clash Buster
Hannibal
Saturn
HAL X-10]]> Anonymous User Original Invincible BBS Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:12:29 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228614#msg-228614 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228614#msg-228614 Anonymous User Original Invincible BBS Sat, 05 Mar 2011 11:35:10 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228183#msg-228183 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228183#msg-228183 -------------------------------------------------------
> Great to see someone having fun with the 1/60
> Labor sofubi kits! I've had many chances to own
> the Python and Saturn but did not take it up for
> various reasons, not least my lack of tools and
> skills to do a bare-white kit any justice! At the
> moment I've packed up about 1/3 of my shelves in
> anticipation of moving to my own place later this
> year. So all my lovely labors are back in their
> boxes now. Hope to resurrect the shelves in time
> to come...

Great to hear from you! The kits are actually colored vinyl... pale blue for the Python, navy for the Saturn, and white for the Economy, to match the box art. I have a second Python coming to make Yuuki's machine to match Gomioka's above, as well as the Saturn, but I'm tempted to get a third Python and try painting it 'toy style' like the CM's labors and use the vinyl color as the base color. They are cheap enough to play around with. Well, the Saturn and Python at least. The Economy seems much more expensive and rare... enough so that I'd rather try and score the MAS versions for cheap.]]> Prometheum5 Original Invincible BBS Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:25:49 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228133#msg-228133 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228133#msg-228133 drifand Original Invincible BBS Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:47:25 -0500 http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228053#msg-228053 Re: CM's Corp Patlabor http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,161677,228053#msg-228053 Anonymous User Original Invincible BBS Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:10:31 -0500