The Official Galvion Toy Thread.

Posted by Roger 
Ahhh, insanely awesome things that I will never have the money to own. *sigh*
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> Hey, look at these album covers:
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> That really looks like the style of Yoshihisa
> Tagami (Grey, Baoh). I wonder if it's his work, or
> if he had anything to do with the cartoon.

Yes, he was the character designer: [www.animenewsnetwork.com]
Episode 1-10 and 22 have been uploaded to Youtube. Unfortunately only the first episode is subtitled.

Starts here:

[www.youtube.com]

Let's hope the remaining episodes will come soon.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2012 04:40PM by thomas.
Some thoughts:

- Episode 8, 9, and 10 feature transforming designs that are new to me.
- Some paintings on the walls of buildings feature interesting things: in one of the first episodes a red car labeled "Rothmans" is shown (and indeed, there was a Porsche 956/962 from Rothmans in red in the early 1980s...).
- The animation varies a lot, some episodes have great art, some bad, some are a mixed bag. Sometimes the animation is really choppy. What I find curious is that many episodes have moments where part of the image is really washed out, as if the cells had faded during the production process.
- Some plots are lousy, including the first episode.
- Regarding episode 22, why was the "barely armored amazon"-character design so popular in the 1980s?

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thomas Wrote:
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> - The animation varies a lot, some episodes have
> great art, some bad, some are a mixed bag.
> Sometimes the animation is really choppy. What I
> find curious is that many episodes have moments
> where part of the image is really washed out, as
> if the cells had faded during the production
> process.



TV animation was mostly filmed in 16MM and cheaply converted to a video format that the networks could use. If you watch video tapes of old TV animation of that period, practically all of it has that washed out look. Just a cheap conversion.

It was also a cheap show. Most of the time the animation gets real choppy because you are only seeing the keyframes, the budget simply wasn't there for inbetweens let alone ink and pant. Also compare the stock footage openings of each episode, sometimes Youtube messes up in the conversion process.



thomas Wrote:
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> - Regarding episode 22, why was the "barely
> armored amazon"-character design so popular in the
> 1980s?



I don't know exactly, but I guess it was kinda a exploitation-cinema view of the 70's. Back then you had the Women's Liberation Movement("Amazon women are often portrayed as warriors that hate men"), the "golden age" of Porn("are barely clothed"), and the start of the Gay Rights Movement("and the queen engages in taboo pleasures"). By the 80's they are kinda stock characters, included whenever directors and producers want barely clothed "hotties" around.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2012 12:07AM by MSW.
MSW Wrote:

> TV animation was mostly filmed in 16MM and cheaply
> converted to a video format that the networks
> could use. If you watch video tapes of old TV
> animation of that period, practically all of it
> has that washed out look. Just a cheap
> conversion.

So the current Youtube uploads are rips from video tapes?

I wonder if the original masters still exist...
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> It was also a cheap show. Most of the time the
> animation gets real choppy because you are only
> seeing the keyframes, the budget simply wasn't
> there for inbetweens let alone ink and pant.
>
The strange thing is that the art doesn't go off-model much at all for a cheap production, at least not glaringly obvious like in SDF Macross.

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thomas Wrote:
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> So the current Youtube uploads are rips from video
> tapes?



Most likely.

Compare these two imagines. One is the actual cell, and the other one is the place the cell was used in the link to the Youtube video you posted.

Probably 70% of the washed out look between these two images was due to the cheap conversation to video tape. Video tape deterioration probably accounts for another 35%. And the Youtube conversion accounts for the remaining 5%.


> The strange thing is that the art doesn't go
> off-model much at all for a cheap production, at
> least not glaringly obvious like in SDF Macross.


I think you are being too generous. It's clear to me the animation team struggled with Yoshihisa Tagami character designs.
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I wonder where those copies came from. Was there an enterprising fan with his dual head Pioneer VHS recorder watching the show or did some local station employee steal the broadcast tapes?

There's rumors of a French dub right? Viva la Galvion.
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> There's rumors of a French dub right? Viva la
> Galvion.

Produced but not broadcasted, with the title "Mic et Mac", according to this page: [www.animenewsnetwork.com] . Although, knowing how AB treats their masters and archives (i.e. crappily), it likely doesn't exist anymore.
I wonder whether it was not advertised back in the day, either on TV or in magazines, because the title rings a bell in my memory.


What is more interesting is that the Japanese Wikipedia page shows four more episode titles, which Google translate shows as "not broadcasted", and also has a piece on how the show would have continued...anyone could give a proper translation of that bit? Google translate is rather unintelligible.

Edit: Japanese Wiki link removed

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2012 01:46AM by thomas.
thomas Wrote:
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> What is more interesting is that the Japanese
> Wikipedia page
> (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/超攻&#36
> 895;ガルビオン shows
> four more episode titles, which Google translate
> shows as "not broadcasted", and also has a piece
> on how the show would have continued...anyone
> could give a proper translation of that bit?
> Google translate is rather unintelligible.


Ampersands?
MattAlt (Admin)
I believe those are actually the "very special episodes" where Galvion and friends learned not to go home with strangers, touch themselves inappropriately in public, and/or snort cleaning products.
Sometimes I hate the fact that this Japanese toy board does not support unicode and therefore doesn't support Japanese text. The Wiki link uses kanji right in the title, can't post a direct link.

So, the wikipedia link from this Google search:

[www.google.com]

There's the episode listing and some piece of text about what was supposed to happen up to episode 30. Or this link from Google: [www.google.com]

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2012 01:44AM by thomas.
huh, I swear I've posted links with escaped Japanese characters (the ampersand-semicolon notation) here before and they worked.

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Has this been linked here already? [chokinzocu.blog24.fc2.com]

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MSW
Apparently, Bandai Visual in Japan is going to release both Blu-Ray and DVD box sets of Galvion this summer!:
[www.bandaivisual.co.jp]
Unfortunately for the usual high Japanese prices :(

The Blu-Ray version includes a "specially made life film" (making of?), and both versions have a 32 page booklet.

Let's hope it gets ripped and subbed.

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Sanjeev (Admin)
More on the T-Rex/Aoshima toy Jeremy mentioned:
[www.collectiondx.com]

Hot damn.
So, nobody spotted a new book on Galvion on the way?

[www.hlj.com]

I mean, good-oh and all, but where's my book on StarzanS or Tekkaman Blade? huh? HUH? JAPAN DO YOU LISTEN? :)
Sanjeev (Admin)
Damn...nope, hadn't heard of the book until now. I'm gonna have to monitor this one closely. Galvion (by way of Convertors) artwork drove me nuts as a kid.

And, of course, I'm still waiting for more news about the Megahouse/Aoshima/T-Rex/whatever toy.
From the looks of things this book is going to be crack for you. :)

Amazon Japan has better info

[www.amazon.co.jp]

Oh crap, that likely won't work, will it.

anyway, I am caught in a mental debate, do I want this book (of course I do) more than I want some other books or models, because, ya know, super limited monies.
MSW
Instant buy!

Thank you SteveH for pointing this book out! I already have the old and small line art book (which provided the line art featured on the Gears Online Galvion article). But this new book looks to be awesome!
Well, thank you for that, I'm always glad to help when I can, and thanks to Amazon Japan I feel more desire and confidence to order this. From the pictures it really looks like the Roman Album we never got.

But I REALLY want this company to do the same with StarzanS and Galatt and Tekkaman Blade and any number of 'ignored' shows...
Sanjeev (Admin)
Was Tekkaman Blade really that ignored? It seemed pretty popular around my circles in the pre-internet days of the early 90's...
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Was Tekkaman Blade really that ignored? It seemed pretty popular around my circles in the pre-internet days of the early 90's...

Man, I have GOT to get my ass in gear and write that article for Dave Merrill's 'Let's Anime'...

Tekkaman Blade was reasonably successful by all indications. King Records/Starchild put out 'A' level support with 3 CDs, two CD Singles (for the different OP/ED themes) and an impressive near-simultaneous-with-broadcast release on Laser Disc, with a complete box set after the ending of broadcast. Bandai kicked in 'B' level support with 4 kits. This was all pretty darn good for an early '90s show.

(mind, I'm not even touching on the last...um...5 years and Bandai's sudden re-interest. I really am sad I missed out on the Pegas/Tekkaman Blade chogokin)

(I DID get the Figma! GO ME!!)

But, no books. I seem to recall B-Club's manga arm did a volume or two adaption, but that was it. No Roman Album, No Newtype 100% collection. No This Is Animation special. No Perfect Memory.

That 'black hole' of disinterest that afflicted publishing, really strangely starting around 1983 or so. And I could go on about THAT, couldn't I? Because it seems I still writ more. :)
The Galvion book is out (mine's being processed by HLJ).

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Got the book, next...

[www.amiami.com]

who's placed a preorder already?
Sanjeev (Admin)
Got the book too...but I haven't had a chance to dig into it. I'm really tempted by that preorder, but I'm going to wait for it to come out first. Much like the SoC GGG situation, I'm happy with my vintage Convertors (even if they ARE pretty horrible)! :P
MSW
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who's placed a preorder already?

Hell yeah! I've got three preordered.
Combined, the multiples I have of all the Galvion model kits and the Convertor toys I have, make up about a third to half of my entire collection. I've waited about 30 years for this, no way I am going to miss it! XD
Sanjeev (Admin)
^^You're a beast!
MSW
Just got my shipping notice! Man, I've waited a LONG time for this...
Sanjeev (Admin)
Please let us know how it is when it arrives! I'm super-curious!
MSW
Okay, I've played around with it for a couple hours (big props for getting this to me in three days!).

The Galvion fanboy in me wants to scream "Toy of the f*cking DECADE!"...But I'll try to be more objective then that:

It's about 7 inches tall that can perfectly transform* into both road attacker and car modes. In fact it follows exactly the way Koichi Ohata designed it. This leaves me with both feelings of awe and horror.

Awe for the accomplishment, horror because in oder to do so they engineered some of the most tiny thin diecast parts I've ever seen. There isn't much metal in the toy, but where it's used counts. -Basicly the whole side pods the arms are attached to is on a 2mm x 3mm thick metal post that let it slide back and forth.

To be fair, it's solidly constructed, doesn't feel loose or floppy at all. But damn, that's a real scary part...just don't hand the toy over the any kids!

In short, it's better than that Galatt figure. It holds together well in robot and car mode (haven't tried road attacker mode yet) and it comes with everything shown in the anime. It's an adult collectible not a kids toy. Comes with a pair of transformation fists, pair of normal fists, weapon holding hands and open hands. Also a shield and gun for robot mode and a pair of the same for car modes (that are about 3/4 size of the robot ones, gun in this size folds up to fit on the shield). Also comes with a stand and a pair of things to attached to the feet for the flaps that extends from the feet in the anime. And lastly some vent like parts for under the robot arms. All in all it seems like it's a pretty solid toy. I like it a lot!








* perfect transformation, except for the hands. They have a pair of small fists for the transformation. But they are like half the size of the normal ones.
Sanjeev (Admin)
That sounds killer!

Very tempting...
So how does it compare to the 1/48 transformable Galvion kit (in robot mode; we all know that model's transformation is pretty dubious...)?

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