GX-62 DANGUARD ACE

Posted by chen 
Figured I'd start a new thread for this toy, we finally have some really good pictures of the prototype now. Looks good but will be much smaller then we expect. Here's a link to the pics.

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Hmmm.... good to see that his shoulders aren't attached backwards!



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Sanjeev (Admin)
Ha!

Oh, Marmit...bad-bad-naughty Marmit!
MattAlt (Admin)
Definitely prefer the proportions to the Marmit, but what this pic really makes me want is the huge-ass Godsigma...!

On that note, I am pretty sure they are picking the sizes to match the old toys. Dangard DX was relatively small. Godsigma DX was pretty big. etc., etc....
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Better shot to see the size.


Poor Danguard is inadvertantly driving up the appeal of the SOC Godsigma!
Was checking out the pix on DX, and those close-ups of his face...man...reminds me of the dude who used to take my lunch money. Guess this is the "Gootch" version of Danguard...not nearly as benevolent looking as the GN-U version, which for the sake of argument would likely just smack this thing around, though he is pretty stocky looking (sort of the Costanza of Chogokin).
So... how big is SOC Danguard Ace going to be? Mazinger/Getters sized? Combattler sized? For some reason I thought he'd be fairly big...
MattAlt (Admin)
Call me crazy, but given the side by side photo above I'm going to hazard a wild guess the he's going to be 3/4 the size of Godsigma.
I pretty sure it will be even smaller, in the pic its standing in front of God Sigma. I'm guessing it will be around 8" max.
This is now available for preorder at HLJ! Put me down for one!
I'm pleasantly surprised at the (relatively) low price of 12,000 Yen. Must be the cheapest SOC in a few years?

But darn it... HLJ has put a STOP on pre-orders for now.
Odd, he's completely disappeared from amiami as well. And I don't mean out of stock, while he's still in my order history, the link is completely dead, and you can't search for him.

I was a bit surprised that he didn't sell out on amiami within 10 minutes like everything else that came up for preorder that night (Chogokin Alto, Ultra Act Zoffy, even Robot Tamashii Gundam Double X)
Oh how cute! It comes with a little mini Sky Arrow with functioning inter-changeable cockpit gimmick. Too bad it's not spring loaded with the erratic malfunctioning auto-launch eye gauging capability that plagued the plentiful but unloved Popinika/Shogun version.... or is it?

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Got this pre-ordered from Amiami but like the Aoshima Daishogun it disappeared from the English website. For the Daishogun they said it was a Japan only item but if you did manage to get a pre-order they will honor it but I have no idea about Danguard unless its a licensing issue like the Yamato version.
Sanjeev (Admin)
Goddamn. Gotta admit--that looks sharp!
"Tiny", ironicorally, can now also be purchased at some sort of Big Bad Toy Shoppe.

[www.bigbadtoystore.com]

Maybe Dancougar can hold his wittle hands while crossing the stweet.

GN-U Danguard forever!!!
Here's to another attempt at a Marvel trio in the same scale...
Has there been any word about how tall Danny is?
19cm or about 7.5" tall.
Okay... Danny is available for pre-order at HLJ again, at a discounted price.

Even with shipping, I don't think we'll find a better price for this `bot.
Can't wait to get mine!
GX-62 Danny Boy.

The Good: Looks good and poses well in rowbutt mode.

The Bad: Tons of extra parts swapping and weak contact points for the rather ugly, and pointless,transformation into "flying box mode".

The Ugly: The tiny little armpit panels that keep slipping up into the torso when in rowbutt mode.

Overall, it's typical of the partsforming SOC figures we've had so far - fiddly on the roof, party in the front (the back is totally empty, like your soul). If Bandai ever gets around to making a Super Robot Chogokin version of Danguard Ace I would gladly get rid of this one because everything that was needed to incorporte the goofy-ass transformation is exactly what drags it down.
Sanjeev (Admin)
Buh? That bad??? I'm surprised because the Yamato version's actually pretty solid. Hell, the original DX toy is excellent, too...as long as you scored one still with tight joints...
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Sanjeev
Buh? That bad??? I'm surprised because the Yamato version's actually pretty solid. Hell, the original DX toy is excellent, too...as long as you scored one still with tight joints...

Nah, I don't mean to say that it's bad. It's not. But it is very fiddly, much like all the transforming SOCs. The two halves separate too easily and there are lots of little fold out parts that get annoying.
Finally landed a good deal on a "Danny boy" and after some fiddling, I'm pretty much in agreement with Gcrush about it's pros and cons.... the perplexingly loose connection between torso and waist might be one of the most "WTF were you thinking Bandai?" engineering decisions in SOC history, maybe topped by the equally befuddling peg sticking out in plain ugly sight on its one leg. Still given, Bandai's capability in making detachable but solid torso connections with the Getter bots, it's a bit of a disappointment for a toy that otherwise, has a great "play me" look to it. It displays great next to its other SOC Shogun Warriors brethren and I just LOVE the little mini, functional Sky Arrow. If you never were able to pick up a vintage Popy DX version, this one should scratch that itch and the bargain price point is a welcome relief from what comparable new gokins are retailing for nowadays.
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H-man
.... the perplexingly loose connection between torso and waist might be one of the most "WTF were you thinking Bandai?" engineering decisions in SOC history, maybe topped by the equally befuddling peg sticking out in plain ugly sight on its one leg. Still given, Bandai's capability in making detachable but solid torso connections with the Getter bots, it's a bit of a disappointment for a toy that otherwise, has a great "play me" look to it.

Look is right. I finally got around to transflopping Danny into flying block mode the other day. It was an awful experience. The design team obviously had no familiarity with geometry because clearly they're experts in spaghetti production. If they had ever handled anything as basic as two Lego pieces the would have been able to catch how all of the square and linear parts that make up Danny should sit flush least they turn into a droopy, sloppy mess of an overcooked Italian dinner. The spaceship mode is so awful that I'd like to revise my original take on Danguard Ass:

GX-26 Danguard Ace is an excellent rowbutt action figure aside from a poorly designed waist connection point between the two halves that make up the ridiculously awful spaceship mode (itself a model lession in poor engineering choices with a total absence of fit-and-finish and product testing based on an utter contempt for the intended consumer demographic of people who might fondly remember that Danguard Ace was also a transforming super robot).

My advice is to buy it, never ever ever transform it, and never look back. You'll be more satisfied that way.
Sanjeev (Admin)
Ouch.

How about an SRC (non-transforming) Danny? And maybe a separate to-scale non-transforming Satellizer mode "upgrade set"?

Or go with the Yamato one from a few years ago.

Or just stick with the fucking GA-79!
The SOC actually allows you to transform Danny into two types of Satilizers.... one more closer to anime form which requires some parts swapping and one "perfect transformation" which mimics the original Popy DX....

.... both look like ass. Danguard Ass (good one, Gcrush!).
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Sanjeev
How about an SRC (non-transforming) Danny?

Interestingly enough, it feels like Danny Boy was a SRC design that got adapted into the SOC-former model. The size, articulation, and gimmicks basically ape the SRC figures. But the goofball, rickety spaceship mode is right outta the SOC playbook. It's a weird hybrid between the two styles that comes at the cost of potentially making a solid example of either one.

Personally, I don't care for the transflopmation aspect of most super robots for two reasons.

First, I only ever had the little Shogun Warriors when I was young and none of them transformed. Since I like updates to the toys I had as a kid, adding in a transformation doesn't sractch any itches.

Second, unless the robot is a dedicated brick-former it almost always ends up a floppy, wobbly mess in one mode or the other. Even Leopaldon, the simplest lay-flat rectangle-forming rowbutt in history, still has a surprising lack of stability in Flying Cougar Head Winged Surfboard mode.

Anyway, I doubt that Danny will show up in the SRC line anytime soon. (A Mazinger 2.0 seems more likely.) But with a little bit of superglue and a large disregard for TEH MARKET, one could turn Danny SOC into Danny SRC fairly easily...
Sanjeev (Admin)
Huh...I heard a couple SoC Leopardon owners say it was solid in both modes (additional articulated arms what-for-be-swappin' notwithstanding). Anyway, interesting suggestion about Danny potentially having been designed *as* an SRC, then being adapted last minute into a fully-transforming SoC. Whether that's true or not, I ain't spending over $100 just to glue the thing into a stable robot mode (i.e., mock SRC).

I'll wait for a legit SRC--which I can't imagine would be THAT out of the question...
Hmmm.... that reminds me that I probably should pick up a SOC Leopalitan some time if I can find it for "cheap"... I mean, technically, he's also a Shogun Warrior right? As was D-17 (shocked there's been no SOC D17 yet).



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I think as long as you just keep the transforming arms on it's pretty solid in both modes. I don't think the spaceship is very fiddly, but it was always a super cheesy "lay the robot down" minimal transformation.

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Leopalitan... I mean, technically, he's also a Shogun Warrior right? As was D-17 (shocked there's been no SOC D17 yet).

Totally. The SOC Leopardon isn't that bad and you get some neato goofball extras with it like Sofubi Spiderman and Hot Wheels Spider Car. As for D-17, there was that awful automatic transformation version from several years ago that always broke after you pushed the button a few times. It sucked pretty bad. I'm still waiting for a SRC version...

As for the flop-drop-and-roll on Leopalindrome, on mine the parts that are booty whack are the fold out panels on the thighs and shins, and the fins in Ship Mode. And the chest (floppy) and dog-head (obstructive) in Rowbutt Mode are less than stellar. I think seriously oldskool brick parts would make the transformation more solid and less "tacked on", but then that comes at the cost of having a less (or non-) poseable figure.

In short, I'm hopelessly waiting for SRC Leopardon and D-17. And Combattler and Voltes V. And Gaiking, Getter Dragon, and Getter Tank Foots. And, and, and... After all of those see the light of the factory the only itch I'll have left to scratch is Lion Voltron.

What is that, like eight robots? That's all I need, Bandai. Give me these eight robots and then we can break up forever. Provided you still give me a Figuarts Hakaider.
Sanjeev (Admin)
I know it'll never happen, but I just wish the SRCs had shooty fists or just some weird gimmick...then they'd truly be the spiritual descendants of the Popy STs (and thus wouldn't be "just metal action figures" in my head).
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Sanjeev
I know it'll never happen, but I just wish the SRCs had shooty fists or just some weird gimmick...then they'd truly be the spiritual descendants of the Popy STs (and thus wouldn't be "just metal action figures" in my head).

They have swappable backpacks and forearms. That's not weird-gimmicky enough? Damn Sanjeev, wasn't there a time when you didn't always yell at the new robots to get off yer lawn?
Sanjeev (Admin)
Nah, see, I used to yell at 'em to get off my lawn...

But now I just make 'em my own damn self. ;)
Dude, that's awesome. I don't spend enough time here; I had no idea how much you were doing with your own stuff.

I apologize. You are clearly not an old codger with a spittle-flecked beard lobbing territorial epithets at every softball what dares careen within 10 yards of your daffodils. You are young and vigorous, exploring hill and dale, pushing out the boundaries of your backyard, clearing new farmland, and learning to seed.

Still, it seems to me you play the part of the unreformed codger now and then, if only for effect. Or maybe I've misunderstood all along. Maybe your role is not that of grumpy old critic, but rather a young artist with a clear and definite vision of what the world needs. Providing a critique, then acting to fill in the gaps.

But wait a moment! Don't dodge the question with diversions to your delicious steel/brass/photopolymer pocket-toy porn. Are you not moved at all by the partswapping of SRC's? Does it not tickle your amygdala to imagine Grendizer sporting a Godscrander and weilding a Goldion hammer with Shin-getter's mighty paws? Or perhaps you are an old soul, seeking clunk and funk arranged at right angles and unmoved by... modern art?
Sanjeev (Admin)
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Runaphen
Dude, that's awesome. I don't spend enough time here; I had no idea how much you were doing with your own stuff.

Thanks!

And believe me--that's only the tip of the iceberg!

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I apologize. You are clearly not an old codger with a spittle-flecked beard lobbing territorial epithets at every softball what dares careen within 10 yards of your daffodils.

Well...actually...I've got a pretty mean spittle-flecked goatee going on right now. It's normally quite neatly cropped, but at the moment, I have my reasons!

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Still, it seems to me you play the part of the unreformed codger now and then, if only for effect. Or maybe I've misunderstood all along. Maybe your role is not that of grumpy old critic, but rather a young artist with a clear and definite vision of what the world needs. Providing a critique, then acting to fill in the gaps.

This is a *much* bigger discussion (and one that we've likely had in the past), but all I know is that I see fewer and fewer REAL toys...and more and more ADULT COLLECTIBLES. Young children addicted to glowing screens, not swapping GI Joe guys, landing their X-Wings in the mud...or simply playing with each other with whatever they got.

Instead of fun things we pick up and mess with with our hands, we put pretty things on our shelves. It was the fun things that got us into this hobby...so why don't we want them anymore? I don't blame Bandai for making the pretty things, but if that's all that gets made...and children don't get to experience the fun things...say goodbye to this hobby.

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But wait a moment! Don't dodge the question with diversions to your delicious steel/brass/photopolymer pocket-toy porn. Are you not moved at all by the partswapping of SRC's?

Do what now? I just received my Grendizer (haven't opened it) and I have Shin Getter 1 on the way. These are my first SRCs...but I haven't heard *anything* about modular limbs! That does indeed sound...moving.

Potentially, anyway. Once bitten, twice shy and all that. And it ain't nothing personal: I have no faith the new X-Men "Days of Future Past" movie will be any good.

But just to expound on my previous comment, I wasn't really trying to trash the SRC line. The Popy STs are some of my favorite toys of all time. But if you take away their gimmicks, they're really just metal action figures, right? Well, the SRCs are clearly superior metal action figures...so if you just gave them shooty fists or other gimmicks to elevate them from "pretty things" to "fun things" (i.e., from "adult collectibles" to "toys"), they'd be AMAZING. And dare I say, fun for even a child to play with--pricepoint and intended market notwithstanding...
But SRCs are still too expensive for someone to buy for the average kid, and probably too fragile as well (lots and lots of sharp points). And you'll shoot your eye out, kid, with any kind of decent springs. But that goes for most of this stuff.

I know we were ridiculing it in it's own thread, but you know which toy my 4 year old likes? That ridiculous, samba-playing, dinosaur-head-on-shoulder Kyoryuger mecha. Super Sentai (and Kamen Rider) still makes these combining bricks that are somewhat durable (though there are tons of reports of broken clips), kid roleplaying items, and other stuff. But even all that stuff is super expensive.
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