[MAZINKAISER SKL] bitchfest

let's see if this even works...

New MAzinger SKL trailer.

[www.youtube.com]

Me likey. I prefer what they're doing here over Shin Mazinger.

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I asked if I have "Time For L-Gaim" but I got "No Reply From The Wind".

How do you power up Mazin-Kaiser? Add more spikes and make the sword bigger.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2010 12:50PM by Gcrush.

SteveH Wrote:
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Sanjeev Wrote:
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> Mazinkaiser SKL makes me sad. Maybe we should
> break out a separate thread to bitch about it...
> ;P


Well, you can, you ARE a boss after all. :)

I am curious, what's making you sad, taking that at face value.

I can see worrysome things myself. The pretty boys, the ripped up clothing, the skulls lordly the skulls everywhere, that whole quasi death metal goth vibe... Yeah, that's clearly pandering to a set crowd just as much as any MOEblob crap show.

Still, what matters is what actually shows on the screen.

Mind, I'd much rather time and resources were spent on letting Imagawa crank out Shin Mazinger Great Chapter, but who knows if that will ever happen.

Vincent Z. Wrote:
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>Mazinkaiser SKL makes me sad.

Why? Did you prefer Shin Mazinger which had the
classic but overly simple Mazinger design? Sure,
it tured into a giant fist and had new set of
wings but for me I wanted to see something new.

The_Mazinger_Z Wrote:
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Mazinkaiser SKL concept IS sad. Couldn't the
writers come up with an original Goth Super Robot
instead? Even if the anime turns out to be
decent, it will still be a "refried" story...

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hillsy Wrote:
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I do believe I'll take "classic but overly simple"
over "lots of skulls and spikes".

Gcrush Wrote:
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VF5SS Wrote:
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> Mazinkaiser SKL is some pure Go Nagai violence
> jackoff


Yeah, the Devilman-shaped axe-blasters really
killed it for me. Definitely not a case of
chocolate in my peanut butter.

So, what are those guns going to be called?
Chazers? Blaxes? Titifle? Lame?

RainBot Wrote:
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Oh, you flibbertigibbets!
I like the SKL dude. He's whacky, and dangerous to
waltz with.

Warrhead Wrote:
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Yeah, what Rainbot said. He hangs out with this
guy, but they just dress scary... they're really
nice guys.





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SteveH Wrote:
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> I am curious, what's making you sad, taking that
> at face value.
>
> I can see worrysome things myself. The pretty
> boys, the ripped up clothing, the skulls lordly
> the skulls everywhere, that whole quasi death
> metal goth vibe... Yeah, that's clearly pandering
> to a set crowd just as much as any MOEblob crap
> show.

Yes.

It's like Spawn, Insane Clown Posse, and...something goth?...all fucked in a big sloppy orgy...and out of the primordial miasma arose this.

> Still, what matters is what actually shows on the
> screen.

I thought that's what we were talking about. I was referring to the trailer Vincent posted.

Vincent, I don't necessarily want yet another new Mazinger show featuring the "classic but overly simple Mazinger design". But the ship has sailed on the whole high school trenchcoat mafia-style with skulls and spikes every-fucking-where. Hell, that shit was wack as fuck even back in high school. EXTREEEEEME!!! Yeah.

So, if you're forcing me to choose, then yes: I prefer "classic but overly simple Mazinger design" to this pile of aborted fetuses.

And I get that this is something *actually* intended by Nagai...but again, this shit is a decade & a half too late...AT BEST. Sorry, Go...this may be an old concept of yours, but shit's already MAD played out...

--
Sanjeev

'Us Massholes straight up just don't give a fuck. I still pronounce "Mazinger" as "Tranzor Z".'
-Nekrodave

I like it. The crazed-pirate look is leagues better on Mazinkaiser than the vampire-prince look. Team it up with Neo-Getter and Captain Harlock.

I like the design, I'm an old school diehard but Shin Mazinger truly sucked. I'll actually wait and see how the OVA turns out before I make any simplistic judgments just based on the design of the robot. I thought the Eva's were just weird looking but Evangelion is one of my favorite series flaws and all. As for the whole Goth/Spawn/Extreme look well whatever, personally I like it better than the designs from Armored Core or the Movie Transformers or something and it's a matter of taste. It's a cartoon if you have fun watching it then great, if not then go have a beer and a smoke it's not like watching it and hating it is gonna take ten years off your life or something.

I don't like the red chest piece, or the Bryan Flynn-esque ghost and skull faces, but the rest of the design is neat... then again, I like the over-wrought Spawn-type designs every now and then.

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Sanjeev Wrote:
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> The_Mazinger_Z Wrote:
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> Mazinkaiser SKL concept IS sad. Couldn't the
> writers come up with an original Goth Super Robot
> instead? Even if the anime turns out to be
> decent, it will still be a "refried" story...
>

Well, from a marketing perspective, you have a couple options. Create an original robot series that could be awesome (e.g. Dangaio, Escaflowne, Platinumhugen Ordian) and hope to gather some type of fan base, or use an existing fan base (e.g. Mazinger/Transformers/Gundam/Getter Robot) and 'refry' it.

I've never really liked the 'original' Mazinger, but Mazinkaiser was the first incarnation that actually struck me as cool. That said, SKL is an interesting concept. I kind of hated the axe guns to begin with, but it's growing on me. And the sword is fucking awesome.

Besides, they could done Dragon Mazinger, Knight Mazinger, Musha Mazinger or Brave Mazinger instead. It could have been a lot worse.

RedAleseides Wrote:
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> Besides, they could done Dragon Mazinger, Knight
> Mazinger, Musha Mazinger or Brave Mazinger
> instead. It could have been a lot worse.

Brave Mazinger? Wouldn't that be, like, a Mazinger who befriends a little boy, and combines from a police car, an ambulance, some construction vehicles and a train? That would be AWESOME!

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

Nope. They could've come up with something in the likes of Great Dangaioh instead of a poorly dressed up Mazinkaiser. Great Dangaioh was completely different story and had a completely different mecha, and still was somehow tied to the original Dangaioh.

What they've done here with Mazinkaiser SKL is a complete lack of creativity...

...but the action figure still looks cool, even with the lame fish-bone sword!

}D

>Great Dangaioh was completely different story and had a completely different mecha, and still was somehow tied to the original Dangaioh.


Wasn't that anime complete shit compared to the original OVA.

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I asked if I have "Time For L-Gaim" but I got "No Reply From The Wind".

Vincent Z. Wrote:
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> >Great Dangaioh was completely different story and
> had a completely different mecha, and still was
> somehow tied to the original Dangaioh.
>
>
> Wasn't that anime complete shit compared to the
> original OVA.


Depends who you ask. It was wayyy different than the original anime, so a lot of fans of the original Dangaioh OVAs felt let down. The only thing they shared was the name and one important character. The Great Dangaioh story was more of an adaptation of the Mazinger Z/Great Mazinger series. However, I don't think it was bad at all...

}D



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So...is there a synopsis or preview out that details the story of SKL? As far I could tell, people here were bitching about the aesthetics.

Personally, I didn't like Great Dangaio, but the music was (sans OP) was good. The ending was a let down, cutting off abruptly.

At this point, I'll watch a mecha anime for good mecha, even if it lacks in story. Most mecha anime follow the same formula anyways, so it's a lot to expect something totally innovating. Will little kids around Japan watch it? probably. Will we watch it? probably. Will we like it? Does it matter? They've already got an SOC planned...I'm good.

Sanjeev Wrote:
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> So, what are those guns going to be called?
> Chazers? Blaxes? Titifle? Lame?

Wiki has them listed as 'Breast Triggers'
[en.wikipedia.org]

>Will little kids around Japan watch it? probably.

Not if it airs at like 2am on a satellite channel. This is for Nagai fans only.

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I asked if I have "Time For L-Gaim" but I got "No Reply From The Wind".

3 part OAV, so little Kenji will have to either rent it or buy it.

Breast Triggers, huh? Wow, what an....unfortunate choice.

>3 part OAV

Really? That's good because I prefer the Go Nagai stuff in OVA format as it's shorter and more crazy goodness. 26 episodes was too much for Shin (I know, the original had over a 100 eps but me and my generation's attention span is incredibly short).

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I asked if I have "Time For L-Gaim" but I got "No Reply From The Wind".

OTOH, even if this was a 2 AM sat chan show, I assume very very few actually stay up to watch such things and they timeshift, so that's no barrier to little innocent Kenji seeing it.

Here's the Skl version of Doublas. As a baddie bot, I don't mind it.
[www.mazinkaizer-skl.com]

"Here's the Skl version of Doublas. As a baddie bot, I don't mind it."
[www.mazinkaizer-skl.com]

I love it!

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I asked if I have "Time For L-Gaim" but I got "No Reply From The Wind".

If Mad Max was a Super Robot pilot, he'd be piloting that Mazinkaiser and it be running on pig sh*t lol.

If Mazinkaiser is all spiky, the kikaiju should be all smooth and heroic and brightly-colored.

But the Doublas is neat. It almost looks like a real robot from the knees up, what with the gatling gun (gatling guns are UBER-REALISTIC, as everyone knows) and the camera heads.

Garada is cool too.
[www.mazinkaizer-skl.com]
The more of these designs I look at, the less I feel like I have a problem with any of them. At least the whole show is consistent, and it produces a lot of variety and interesting details within its style.

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

[www.mazinkaizer-skl.com]

Fucking clever how the wings on the Pilder form the jawbone.

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I asked if I have "Time For L-Gaim" but I got "No Reply From The Wind".

I kind of like the Doublas....

[www.mazinkaizer-skl.com]

The gun arm is pretty cool...

EVA unit 2...with two heads.

Sanjeev Wrote:
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> EVA unit 2...with two heads.


just stop now

you said yourself that you can't be a robo racist

and look what you're doing.

seriously, does that look anything like Eva unit 2? at all?

Hahaha...



No, you're right...I'm waaaaay off base here! :P



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[www.mazinkaizer-skl.com]

Well Garada sure is hunched over like an Eva.

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I asked if I have "Time For L-Gaim" but I got "No Reply From The Wind".

The one mech in the show that is supposed to have a skull on it doesn't....Nice...

Those baddies need to eat a sammich or sumpin.

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Sanjeev Wrote:
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> No, you're right...I'm waaaaay off base here! :P


wow, if you squint they're vaguely the same shape!

how exactly does a skinny robot with organic lines look just a blocky robot with squared off limbs and mechanical detailing?

do we all still live in 1996 when calling something an Evangelion was a form of derision?

Actually...I was just referring to the head (minus Doublas' ears)...hence my crack Photoshoppery.

VF5SS Wrote:
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> do we all still live in 1996 when calling
> something an Evangelion was a form of derision?

Buh?

Sanjeev Wrote:
> Actually...I was just referring to the head (minus
> Doublas' ears)...hence my crack Photoshoppery.

I kinda see what you mean about the chin but don't a million robots have pointy chins?

The eyes on Doublas are, bizarrely, more like an 80s Okawara real robot. A random Armored Trooper, or a Dragonar cannon fodder bad guy...

> VF5SS Wrote:
> > do we all still live in 1996 when calling
> > something an Evangelion was a form of derision?
>
> Buh?

Oh yeah everyone loved to hate on the Eva designs back in the day. I'd say it was the mecha geek's equivalent of the toy nerd's comparing everything to McFarlane.

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

SteveH Wrote:
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> Breast Triggers, huh?

Hilarious. And so obvious. Makes me want to legally change my name to Dick Missile. I could totally be Gay Bond's nemesis du jour.


asterphage Wrote:
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> If Mazinkaiser is all spiky, the kikaiju should be
> all smooth and heroic and brightly-colored.
>
> The more of these designs I look at, the less I
> feel like I have a problem with any of them. At
> least the whole show is consistent, and it
> produces a lot of variety and interesting details
> within its style.

Amen on the smooth and silky kikaiju legs. Also on your Brave-Zinger concept. That shit is genius.

While SNL Mazenshizer looks too death metal for my tastes you're right about the over-all design approach. So far it comes across as well-integrated, if not particularly original. I'd love to see a new take of Duke Ass Tiger. That dood was always my favorite and if they rehashed it well it could completely change my outlook on this McFarlane crossover.


Sanjeev Wrote:
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> Hahaha...

Fucking hilarious. Those lines are nearly dead-on.


fel9 Wrote:
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> The one mech in the show that is supposed to have
> a skull on it doesn't...

This thread is killing me. And restoring my faith in humanity.


VF5SS Wrote:
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> do we all still live in 1996 when calling
> something an Evangelion was a form of derision?

My synthetic hind-brain coupling matrix was manufactured and installed in 1996, though my maker explained that it was actually designed early in 1995 and did not go into mass-production until later as there were miles of bureaucratic red tape that needed sorting in the Lower House of Homunculus before any major, system wide upgrades could be implemented.

Wait, huh?