Time to Procure a Valkyrie

VF5SS Wrote:
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> Warrhead Wrote:
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> > No, packaging known defective VF-1J's with
> Armor
> > sets was horseshit. Expertise be damned, that
> was
> > just plain liquidation at the consumer's
> expense.
>
> Logistics are a difficult thing for any company.
> Given their course of action, I surmise it was
> actually easier for them to take their existing
> stock (especially if it was already packaged and
> ready to ship) and deal with customer concerns as
> they arose through their free replacement part
> system.
>
> Oh right we don't get that 'round here ;-;
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> >>my vinyl battlepod.
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> ohhhww...


weak. Hope the micro missile one is better.

Having recently gotten reaquainted with Bandai's old 1/100 Super Real Model VF-1A I do indeed still like it and recommend.
Almost a miniaturized chunky monkey, it laughs in derision that Toynami, and Revoltech would be silly enough to temp me from my wampum, with their modern 1/100 offerings. pffft.

Those things are awesome. I used to love the bootlegs of those with that wierd-ass gun it came with.

Prometheum5 Wrote:
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> thomas Wrote:
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> > Half-metal half-plastic pivot balls? Who
> thought
> > that was a good idea?
> >
> > Ah, I guess if it's a Yamato it should have a
> > stupidly designed part that is prone to
> > breakage...
>
>
> I can't even deal with how stupid you sound,
> condemning a toy that isn't out and you don't own
> to breakage.

Yeah, how do I dare criticise a design option that tends to lead to problems like the plastic part separating from the metal part over time, due to 1) inequal wear and the cup catching on one of the ball halves, and 2) how the different materials react to temperature variations over time?

I must be mad and those toys that have a similar joint design and very loose and/or broken joints must be halucinations.

But be happy, unless the joint really breaks (i.e. the plastic part cracks and crumbles, and the leg/arm falls off), your toy will be able to hold a pose (but no cool action pose).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2011 03:36AM by thomas.

guess we got Thomas the material engineer in this thread

i defer to your judgment on the matter

thomas Wrote:
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> I must be mad and those toys that have a similar
> joint design and very loose and/or broken joints
> must be hallucinations.

Which toys? I've never seen that kind of half-plastic ball joint before.

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

my dear, you had me at "hello"

also I'm fairly certain it has a lot more metal than the VF Hi-metal I reviewed a while ago



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You can give me the red one now.

only if you give me your Durandal

I don't have one ;_:

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Just curious, does anyone know if there are any plans to update the YF-19 based on what they did with the VF's?

People keep talking about it but there's no definite plans. The YF-19 hasn't aged as well as the other Macross Plus toys. Renato was telling me he thinks we're reaching the limit for people re-buying the same character.

Haha.

Yeah I can see how another YF19 would be pushing it.

Besides, I primarily wanted to clear that up in my memory if it was this or just the Frontier figures that were getting the upgrade.

Well the 1/60 Yamato is the only truly modern YF-19 since the Highly Low Metal became vaporware. Maybe the market can support just one more say around the time of Plus's anniversary or a Blu Ray release.

Interestingly enough, the YF-19 is by far the most popular subject for transforming garage kits. There's at least five different kits of it, all of which have their own takes on the finer bits of the transformation.

I'd like to do an overview of that someday.

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Most definitely. True hotness.

But I still can't quite get over the lack of canards...

Damn that thing looks soooo good.

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I don't know you can see it but underneath the visor is a silver saw-toothed piece to help the look

sadly no ninja eyes like the YF-19

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Experten is making his own VF-11 Garage kit.

Hopefully this isn't a dumb question (I haven't read all 59 pages so maybe this has been discussed....) but do the "old" Bandai Chogokin Macross Frontier Valks have breakage problems like the new Renewal version? The VF-25F Renewal version is my first Bandai valkyrie and given it's a Chogokin bandai product I expected decent quality. But after reading of the breakage and other minor problems I'm almost afraid to even take it out of the box.....

Some of the old ones, particularly the Ozma type, would develop cracks on the main backplate hinge.

VF5SS Wrote:
> Some of the old ones, particularly the Ozma type,
> would develop cracks on the main backplate hinge.

And didn't you post something a while ago about the armor set destroying the toy with its weight?

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

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> And didn't you post something a while ago about
> the armor set destroying the toy with its weight?

It certainly does that.

Although really it was just accelerating the decay of the figure and exacerbated the flaws. I think some of the people at the crazy hut noted that those hinges would crack even without any armor applied to them.

VF5SS Wrote:
> really it was just accelerating the decay of the figure

Yeah, but that's what playing with it does to any toy, or exposing it to light and oxygen.

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

ENTROPY!

Why don't you have a valkyrie humidor yet

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

I should invest in a scale hangar at this point

since I can't find a scale tarmac

Which hinge is the problem? My Alto has been sitting in Gerwalk on a shelf for a year or so, but I was considering pulling it down to mess with the other day. I've been on a 'pull out old toys and handle them for 20 minutes before putting them back on the shelf/in the box' kick lately, which came to a screeching halt after realizing how poorly the Yamato 1/72 Mac+ valks have aged.

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The main hinge that holds together the front and back of the Valk in Battroid mode. My Armored Ozma came like that in the box (Unfortunately I only noticed that AFTER I had gotten HLJ to order some missing leg armor from Bandai and received said armor), with half the hinge cracked.

Yeah like this



These generally don't break but it ruins the already small amount of tension that joint had in the first place

also the landing gear doors have the shittiest design and the plastic they're made of is crumbly



this may be just the Ozma type though




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2011 01:32PM by VF5SS.

oh

well after taking those two pictures



this happened



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2011 01:41PM by VF5SS.

i guess i can't use this things for comparisons with the new one when I do my review



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holy shit it's like this thing is made of soap
or gingerbread
or woven reeds
or papier-mâché

-Paul Segal

"Oh, the anger is never far, never far." -SteveH

I think it's the same plastic as the old Yamato 1/72 scale VF-11

Sigh...anyone in the market to produce reinforced hinges or anyone with a fix to prevent this from happening? So my Ozma is not completely worthless due to being inaccurate AND prone to shattering due to *air* surrounding it?

And then there's the risk of the wing roots shearing off due to the weight of the armored packs...

...I should've gotten the Quarter instead.

For fuck's fuckin' sake! Fuck new VF's!




...fuck!


With the price, intricacy, and failure rates of new high-end collector toys constantly and steadily increasing, I wouldn't be surprised if someone started offering extended warranty plans for 'em.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2011 04:02AM by Warrhead.

Most new Valkyries aren't really that intricate, all things considered.

But what do I know, I'm just a gushy VF-19 lover <3

It's true, it's all he talks about.

Also, dude, relax. They're toys, and the people with problems are always louder than the people without. Otherwise, you get labeled a 'lover' like Veef.

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